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Posted: 9/10/2010 12:33 AM PDT
I think kids (teenagers) are interested in vampires for a few reasons. But not the drinking of blood or sleeping in coffins. I know Dracula and Lestat have been around for years but traditionally it has been young people who were attracted to them back when they were popular. And I think the reason for that is because teenagers are caught in between. They're still trying to figure out where they belong. They want more respect then children but they haven't earned the respect of adulthood. They want to be independent and on their own but they're not quite old enough to do it. But the vampire on the other hand. They drip with confidence! They play by their own rules! They don't bow down to anyone! I think its those things that have attracted teenagers to vampires throughout the years.
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Posted: 7/25/2010 7:11 PM PDT
I agree - if your plot is not derivative, then it doesn't matter.
Jasper Kent's novel, "Twelve", has vampires - but it has nothing in common with the "Twilight" type take on them. It works.
Posted: 6/4/2010 7:07 PM PDT
I agree with sticking with your idea. Evidently you loved it enough to write it, so don't abandon it just because everyone else has ruined vampires. As everyone else said, if you are unique, you will be read. I thought vampires were dead after Twilight, and then I got hooked on True Blood. Have a good story and the readers will forget that other authors have butchered the main creature.
That evolution comment gave me an idea.... hmmm.... speaking of which, if anyone ever wants to know about that, message me. I'm a biology teacher and that's my specialty. ;)
Posted: 6/4/2010 10:39 AM PDT
Definitely stay true to your topic. Not only will changing the story weaken it (and you won't be as happy with it because vampires is what you wanted), but more importantly, there's a huge boom in vampire books because they're in demand. Everyone wants to read them. Ergo, publishers are a lot more likely to accept a vampire book because they know there are millions of people who are dying to read it without even knowing what else it's about.
Hope that helps.
Posted: 5/27/2010 7:00 AM PDT
I don't really agree with the rest of the posters here. I say go back and write the novel you originally started to write and screw the popular trend. It's not because I love vampire novels. I am saying this because you're compromising your ideals to suit what you think will sell, instead of concentrating on writing a great story.
Great stories are timeless. They cross genres. A great story is sought after. You could put one copy of the Da Vinci code amongst shelves of other Catholic Church Conspiracy Novels, and people will still pick it up first. It doesn't matter what's popular now --what matters is that you have a story to tell. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise or you'll be writing crap and that's a fact. You'll be writing crap because you will always be worried about what other people are doing instead of being inventive and creative. That shouldn't guide your actions.
Write the novel. At the very least, if you don't think it will sell, put it in a drawer and wait a few years. Take it out later and see if you still think it's a good story. If it's good then you've done the right thing and not compromised your principles. Once you start down the dark path of compromising your ideas, forever will it dominate your destiny....
Posted: 5/19/2010 4:25 PM PDT
I dunno... Most of this Vampire Boom has to do with Vampires as the heroes... if you can clearly state (or imply) in the title that the vampires are the BAD guys and that the good guy is hunting them... it could still work. (Example: Dresden Files novels have all SORTS of vampires (and other baddies) and they're still doing fine.) Just find a way to make it interesting and it'll work out.
Posted: 5/16/2010 9:11 PM PDT
Aww, shit... Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks Twilight and the vampire boom are ruining the chance for decent vampire novels. Mine will take a few years to finish, plus a half-year for editting and a year or so for publishing, so I hope I can publish it as a come-back. I absolutely cannot stand what vampires have turned into. I'm really hoping that mine will stand out at least a bit since it relates back to the science and it's very graphic (horror novel).
I wish you luck with your new Fallen Angel idea <3 Those were in the boom about 20 years ago, in the '90s, but it seems like they're coming back. If you just creep in within the next year or so and get it published just before it's booming, it'll be the Twishit of angels. You know--the first published before the craze, making it overly-popular. Anyways, I'm still sendin' you luck, alright?
I feel your pain,
Posted: 4/1/2010 1:26 PM PDT
Angels would be realistic with how you portray your plot, and currently angels are what is hot on the market (from what I've read). To break it down though, everything seems to move in a cycle. Vampires, werewolves, angels, demons, ghost, mythological creatures . . . Perhaps your agency can consist of more than just one species or, you can simply make up your own. For a story I'm working on I have a huge number of supernatural creatures from fae to bucentuars, to deranged spirits to a seductive succubus. There is a huge panorama out there to explore and experiment with when it comes to this genre.
Anyway, enough of my ranting.
You've already decided, so I wish you good luck! Oh, and when you start your project, let me know! I want to read it. I love supernatural stories!
Good Luck! ~SLTora
Posted: 3/26/2010 6:05 AM PST
I like you're plot idea, and unfortunately I'll be telling you one of my ideas I'm using but if you can branch off of the idea that would be good.
I'm my story there is a thing called a Shell (or if you have seen Bleach, a Hollow). But mine is a black beast that has an eye you need to attack to kill the creature. They cause bad luck in a sense, if they follow you, you don't know, but for those that can see them, they are giant like the size of an elephant or larger. They can cause buildings to collapse if they are strong enough and they get stronger by feeding off of negative energy.
They start out a souls, but the souls has a regret and the longer that regret isn't fulfilled the soul slowly turns into a Shell. Different things can speed up this proses like the soul trying to make contact with others to let them know what they want.
That's a brief summery of them but why not make like a void character, like a creature that lives in limbo. Not in heaven or hell but doomed to walk the world to get passage to heaven. But if they do bad, then hell. Maybe even have these characters be girls, like sirens. You know, the creature that sings to get men to come to her and then they kill the men. Something like that maybe.
Search monsters on the internet and see what you can find.
Posted: 3/23/2010 10:31 AM PST
Haha, kidding! Please no more vampire and zombies. I applaud you for moving away from the crowd, although it's a shame because your plot sounded very intriguing!
How about you create your own mutation of evolution? Research some Darwin.. create extreme habitats that would need some severe adaptation for creatures to survive... and create something creepy from that.
I'm not good at explaining this so I will give you an example. If you've never seen the movie "The Descent," it's about some cave jumpers who go into an undiscovered cave. They find out that there are organism living down there that have never seen the sunlight and have evolved over millions of years to never leave the cave. They are blind and they use sound to determine the location of things; like bats. Plus, they were super creepy.
Get creative with it! :) Good luck.
Posted: 3/3/2010 12:56 AM PST
Thanks, but I've decided to completely break away from the Vampire genre and re-write the book as a fantasy involving fallen angels.
Don't want to say too much, but I'm feeling symultaneously optomistic and daunted by the idea of writing a completely new novel... nightmare!
Posted: 3/1/2010 1:34 PM PST
That's a difficult one. If you really intent to change the "monsters" in your story, you should make sure it doesn't require rewriting of the entire book.
I don't know the plot of your story, but I think you need this:
- creatures that don't need a trial to be convicted evil
- creatures where violence can be used against without moral issues
- non-cliché creatures
Otherwise the rest of your story may be required to change too, right?
This does seem difficult, but on the other hand; you've got a lot of possibilities. Maybe the creatures don't need blood, but hearts (a specific kind of muscle, kind of symbolic), or an organ, like the liver. Maybe the thirst (or hunger) doesn't spread by bite, but by kiss? Maybe they need sunlight to survive, or even the presence of a plant?
I've got no idea what's possible and not in perspective with your story, but I hope this helped.
Posted: 3/1/2010 12:11 AM PST
... so I'm pretty much screwed!
Hi, I've been writing a book since I were thirteen (im 18 now) and it was a vampire novel, but Vampires weren't the main focus, it was more about the guy who was given the job of dispatching them...
the problem is that with the sudden boom in vampire books (im pretty sure I don't have to name a few, you can think of at least four!) my book won't stand out and will just be limped with the others and will struggle to find a place in the market...
I was trying to think of a different type of creature but I'm struggling, can anyone else think of a creature?